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Speed Arthas · Feb 04, 2008, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Ok the questions is, can Assassins do Slaviers ?
And if it is possible, which builds ?

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Whiskeyjack · Feb 04, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Any class can do slavers. As for builds mobius/death blossom is probably your best bet.

Angra · Feb 04, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

What he said. I'd consider critical defenses and critical agility.

Adriaanz#Shiro · Feb 04, 2008, 05:30 PM // 17:30

No group will accept us. I feel left alone by Anet.
Sins won't get accepted in any HM farm group, except Ursanway.

~Shiro.

Covah · Feb 04, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39

so then start your own group or do ursanway

Siirius Black · Feb 04, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39

All depends in your ability. Believe it or not. I have done slayers with a Sin as the tank.

Velise_Snowtorm · Feb 04, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

No reason a sin can't do it. My sin will be finishing EotN soon, which will include doing all the dungeons. I've already done Slavers just fine as a Mesmer.

It's the fact you want to join PuGs, who use very basic cookie cutter teams, that prevents you from going. Round up some friends/allies/guildies and do a run. Good guilds work with what they have and improvise their teams.

Adriaanz#Shiro · Feb 04, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Okay, let's finish the discussion about not getting accepted in a group and post specific builds.

I posted a stance sin somewhere else,
using Gladiator's Defense with high-tactics.

Any opinions?

~Shiro

Sir Pandra Pierva · Feb 04, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

it works but personally with Pug sin just really wont work since most pugs really can't work well in Slavers

Speed Arthas · Feb 04, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40

Well this 1 could be good in there;
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/any_PvE_Assaulter

Coloneh · Feb 05, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed Arthas

Well this 1 could be good in there;
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/any_PvE_Assaulter

MS + DB beats that.

Marverick · Feb 05, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

If you try to tank, then there is even less of a chance that a PuG will let you in. Play to your strengths; 'Sins are there to kill stuff in PvE, leave tanking to the stupid warriors.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 05, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marverick

leave tanking to the stupid teams that have never heard of passive defense or protection prayers

Fix'd.
damn 12 char limit

Mark Nevermiss · Feb 05, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Crit Defences/Agility is not the definite answer to every question. Do not try to tank with that or you will get owned. You will be faced with:
a- Heavy disenchantment.
b- Massive spell damage, especially at Forge and Selve.
c- Spammable unblockable attacks.
d- Touchers.
No group will take you as damage dealer and I doubt people will join you if you start a PUG in such capacity. I doubt any monk will wont to have you wade into monster backline and:
a- Get potentially 2 shot.
b- Cause aggro leak that will make monsters attack other squishy party members.
c- You will most likely get hit with Faintheartedness + Insidious Parasite and Maybe SS + Reckless Haste too.

Everything may sound good on paper but in reality it is not. Your best bet would probably be to H/H or maybe find an UB group if your rank in Norn is high enough, which wont be easy either.
I am NOT categorically denying that other setups than the currently common one may make it, but out of 100% of the times Duncan got killed 98.5% probably were obsi+nuker+monk+necro+any/FS.

Bowstring Badass · Feb 05, 2008, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Any option other then PuG sounds good.

Reapers Prophecy · Feb 05, 2008, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Erm how about a/r? Ranger still sin.

arsie · Feb 05, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34

Do it with friends and heroes. Some bits are really hard though.

Mark Nevermiss · Feb 05, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reapers Prophecy

Erm how about a/r? Ranger still sin.

People may take you as a crit barrager with FS but only if they cannot find a R/Rt or Rt/R or even E/R, sometimes. The reasons are:

a- Splinter + barrage does significantly more damage than crit-barraging.
b- You lack other useful skills from the Rit profession such as Gaze of Fury.

Still if you insist on doing SE on your sin with a PUG then try to market yourself as a crit barrager with FS. I once took such sin over a R/Rt but mainly because I felt for the guy, having a sin myself and understanding what its like to be one. We did Duncan in HM that time and he finished his SE. He maintained FS and Symbiosis [whenever needed] and that was mainly what we required him to do.
Good luck!

Konig Des Todes · Feb 05, 2008, 08:24 AM // 08:24

As mentioned before, any profession can do slavers, I've only gone in with my sin so far, been using Golden Fox Strike+Wild Strike+Death Blosson+Moebius Strike+Critical Defenses+Crical Agility+either a heal or vanguard assassin support or Swap*swap only for duncan, to help out SV necro*

As people have mentioned, sins seem to not be wanted as much, although I agree with that, sins are great profession, nice armor ignoring damage and can last a bit alone. Personally, I'd take a sin with a decent build over any war anyday.

ACreator · Feb 05, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

there is the way Iv done it.

Permashadow form and still bonds from bonder + symbiosis

with permashadowform, u will do more than a normal tank cuz u almost never take dmg and casters loose enrgy while trying to cast spells at you.

the bonds are for any PbAoE dmg and to help gain more HP through symbiosis to counter the touchers.

The problem is well of profane (u will die here like 99% of PUG tanks) and u gotta be realy carefull with disenchant spirits...

also bad timing can kill ya..

the build is something like:

Shadowform
deadly paradox´
Archane echo
Channeling
feignet neutrality (to more HP and cover enchant)
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